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McDain's in Monroeville, Pa., plans to close its doors to children younger than 6 years old, due to overwhelming customer complaints about unruly youngsters.
Posted 7/ 12 11 at 1:30 PM | News, Legal Issues, Consumer Products & Services, Food & Beverage
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Mike Vuick has made the decision to ban children younger than 6 years old from his Monroeville, Pa., restaurant.Beginning Saturday, the "upscale casual" McDain's will no longer accept young children, a policy that's getting Vuick a lot of attention.
Vuick's decision is driven by a host of customer complaints, although his biggest issue isn't with the children, but their parents. "Their child -- maybe as it should be -- is the center of their universe," Vuick told Pittsburgh TV station WTAE. "But they don't realize it's not the center of the universe."
The small restaurant, in which a third of the seats are at the bar, is described by Vuick as "a very genteel, quiet place; very adult."
The ban on children is completely legal. While senior citizens are in a legally protected class and cannot be banned from establishments, existing laws do not protect children from being denied service.
Vuick notified customers of the impending policy change via e-mail, and most of the reactions were positive, with customers responding, "Thank you," and "Nice job."
Vuick said he doesn't expect the decision to affect his 9-year-old restaurant.
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Correction! That is a completely ignorant statement. While there are many adults that don't discipline/raise their kids to behave well,a lot such as my wife/I do. People that take their grievances toasted unruly children to this extreme, need to first realize 2 things. Kids are necessary for mankind to continue...and that you once were that very kid that other adults were complaining about!
Geez man....parents aren't like they used to be.....and neither are kids.....as a parent and grandparent, I have seen the transposition....and it's grim.
This "my child bla bla bla" is a bunch of crap......people who either are out to take a break from THIER kids, or popel who HAVE no kids should have SOME place to go.
Today's society is all about "everything, all the time" and with THAT crap, only the people who bring the unwanted component are at fault.
Simply put....how would you like it if you hated to hear fould language, and YOU wanted to go to a bar, where that language is part of the atmosphere tin a bar......why should they clean it up for YOU?
It doesn't take a village to feed a child at a resturant that is for adults only! Take your child to MacDonalds for kids! Go McDain's!!!
Lets make this short and sweet, the person that owns the place pays his or her taxes and should be allowed to say if anyone can enter, it is supposed to be there right. Most of that has been taken away from us by the so called law. If you own it and pay your taxes you should be able to have some say so. Such as smoking, drinking, children, etc.
Okay i have a few comments on the whole situtation to many people who have posted on this case. I'm a parent of two kids. I have a 6 year old daughter and a 3 year old son. Both of my children do not "cause a scene" when we go out to eat. People who say that there are "bad" parents, yes there are bad parents out there who don't care what their child does. But you also have to look at the group of parents that have been place in the "bad" parent group that are fearful to discipline their child in public. Because of liberal's who threaten to call the cops when a parent trys to discipline them. For instance in Arizonia a woman is now serving time in the state pen on a fenoly for spanking her child on the rear in public. The prosecuting DA even said this is no where near any criminal offense. The judge has publicly said otherwise and sent her to jail for 5 years. So to all the people who say you can't spank/yell/discipline your child i have one question for you. WHERE IS YOUR CHILD AT NOW? My next point is i agree with having a sign or posting or rule in a restaurant saying "IF YOUR CHILD CAUSE ANY KIND OF DISRUPTION YOU WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE". There is a restaurant in North Carolina called Old Salty Resturant in Carolina Beach that has done this and it has worked very well. I belive if you can not keep your child under control then yes you should leave. Now to the parents out there who like to keep their child out all day and then decide to go out to eat. You know your child is tired they did not take a nap and are probably going to be crabby. Be a parent, sacrifice going out to eat and bring the child and cook them dinner. Those of you who say "You have raised your child and should not have to put up with other's children raising a scene when you go out to eat" keep your butt at home and cook something, quit being lazy and then you can enjoy a quite dinner at home. They have just as much right to go out as you do. Oh and on a personal note, i feel if you say your done raising your child then you have given up on them. You as a PARENT are never done raising your child. If you are there for them no matter how old they are to give them advice or assitance in any way then your not done. I feel your never done til your dead. On that note make sure you tell your kids not to have any kids so you don't have to go through it again with grandkids. I agree with both sides that yes you should be able to go out to dinner and not have a disruptive child interrupt your dinner, but on the same token you gambled to go out and eat knowing there is a chance this could happen. Those of you saying "Take your kids to McDonald's" because little kids don't like the menu at these restaurants. Just to let you know my kids perfer these restaurants over McDonald's. Yes they still like going but if i give them the choice they make the healthier choice. My last point. Temper-tantrums. Yes children have temper-tantrums mine do it at times too. I don't let them continue in public places i take them out to the parking lot away from everyone or to the bathroom for a private discussion then we go back. Do the adults not remeber that "YOU" had them growing up and those of you who say you didn't i call your a "LIAR" and BS. So quite be a hypocrate and admit you had them and understand that small children have to learn over time how to express themselves as adults when they get older. That is why we have two words for a group of people in the same age, children and adults. It takes time and yes parents are resposible to teach them NOT, TV and schools. People have got to once again let parnets discipline their child with out fear of going to jail. I personally have no fear of that. Yes my kids if needed get spankings. If you have a problem with that like i told a person in the store when they got mad and threaten to call the cops because i popped my child's hand for grabbing stuff. If i have to go to jail for hitting someone then its going to be you. Like i said i agree with parts of the ban but don't ban the majority for mess ups of the minority.
When I think of all the annoying things I have seen adults do in restaurants, I am appalled that parents with children should be treated this way. I have seen old men blow their nose loudly into dirty handkerchiefs, old women spitting into tissues, waitresses and waiters scratching and stroking their hair;l managers coughing without covering their mouth and some of all ages eating without first cleaning their hands. Children who cry is a temporary part of anyones life, crying is normal, old folk and older folk should learn to "tolerate" and tolerate is a poor choice of words, but if society can be more understanding of the needs of other, the whole world would be a better place to be and "the restaurant will not suffer for it" Not being accepting of others is a major reason for the lonliness of many adults in the world. Why not create an area for "families" or "guest with children" The restaurant CAN'T be that fancy or folk would not select it to bring their family for regular dining. COME ON NOW, HAVE A HEART! Remember those will grow older, their children will grow up, if they have not made memories at your restaurant it will be your loss.
I can get this. And I am a mother of two, a five year old and a three year old. However, I disagree with the age. I think 10-12 would be more appropriate. I too, would love an evening out kid free! My children are well behaved, but they can always have mood changes! As can any child no matter how they are raised. Some adults would like to have a nice evening out,while kids are having fun with Nana or a sitter, and do not want to go to a dark smokey bar establishment! I just think the age is still a bit young.